good and ugly. Like a bruise

I had a visit for a few days from rebeccmeister which was great. We manage to see each other every couple of years, and have all of the conversations. (in between the conversations we have online.) She lives the life of a post-doc so she lives here and there and everywhere, but at heart she remains a Seattle person. A visit from a Seattle person is always a good visit. I am sure a visit from non-Seattle/Washington people is a good visit, but there is that visit from someone from home that is a bit like experiencing a bit of a teleporting. All those cultural experiences, and contexts in one place.
She is back to London before her long trek to the middle of the US.

I had an interesting conversation that brought an update to a wild situation that went down awhile ago.
I am FB friends with C, who is the wife of one of Mr. Jenner's university friends. (J. was the best man at our wedding.) C. is great. (She is one of the nicest people.) Anyhow, she is pregnant with her second kid, and she went for a check-up and ran into someone in the waiting room. It was E. the former wife of another of Mr. Jenner's university friends. (the ex husband is S.)

Some might recall, E. was the one who kicked her husband out of their new house -9 days after they had moved in, saying she needed a bit of space, and it turned out she was having an affair with this guy at work. Her husband S. found ALL of the evidence in the world on computer (because he is an IT guy, who had passwords to everything and remote access to all the computers in the house) that showed how long the affair had been going on. (she had kept a diary, plus there were emails.)
E. is a woman who was a bit of a gold-digger and had seen in her husband (when she met him) as that step to financial aspirations come true.
It was all very messy and unpleasant. They have a daughter together.

I recall a day on FB, when E. changed her relationship status on FB to being in a relationship with her new BF. (well... maybe not that new, since they had been sleeping with each other awhile.) and her BF's wife's family/friends went ape-shit on FB about the situation. In real time it was something else to witness things. (apparently her BF's wife had, had cancer, and he had a history of cheating.)

Are you still with me? Do I need to draw a diagram? Or do some kind of power-presentation?
Anyhow, so C. ran into E. And E is crazy pregnant with twins. (due the same time that C. is) and she had her bf's kids with her. C. commented that this was an interesting turn of events, as E. hadn't exactly been enthusiastic about having more children. (in fact she didn't really like it at all, and often complained that her in laws didn't help enough or take her daughter enough.) But hey, maybe it will work out. In some fashion or another.

C. told me that her husband J. is totally furious about the whole situation, and doesn't think C. should even speak to E. The she explained the whole thing to me, it was like some kind of Edith Wharton sort of mess. The jilted husband (S.) is/was J's best friend. (had been since they were kids.) And since the whole giant hairy mess, S. has essentially dropped off the face of the Earth. He won't return J's texts/calls/invites to dinner. I think that is especially hard on J. I did mention that divorce is a pretty traumatic thing, and it might take time to find that place where you want to see people again. But that it doesn't hurt to keep trying to include him, and keep that line open offering support/friendship.
I do feel sad for everyone involved. I think if J. encountered E. he might smack her. He really feels she is responsible for fucking up his friendship. I also think at times, that J. has a rather old-world Catholic feeling about divorce and feels like it ruins a person for life, and it is such a scandal to one's good name or some such shit. Maybe J. doesn't know enough divorced people. You would think he was a Marchmain or something. It's sad, and hard, but it isn't the end of the world.